The Right Of Firefighters To Apprehend Dangerous Drivers

Two cases in the news lately have raised the controversial issue of whether firefighters have the right to use their red lights and siren to stop motorists who are driving erratically.

The first case was from last July when a Sacramento Metro firefighter stopped Patrick Brosnan for driving erratically.  More on that case here.

Last week the North Carolina Court of Appeals decided the case of State v. Dorothy Hoogland Verkerk. Verkerk was driving erratically back in 2011 and was apprehended by a Chapel Hill fire engine under the command of Lt. Gordon Shatley. She pled guilty to driving while impaired (second offense) but reserved the right to appeal her case arguing that she was illegally detained by the firefighters until the police could arrive. She asked the court to suppress the evidence of her intoxication as the fruit of an unconstitutional stop.

The NC Court of Appeals sent the case back to the trial court for clarification on whether it determined that Lt. Shatley was acting as a private party (and thus the law applicable to private party searches should apply) or whether he was a governmental actor, in which case more normal criminal law principles apply.

The court concluded that if Lt. Shatley was acting as a governmental agent, the stop was a seizure that could only be justified based upon “reasonable suspicion” as per Terry v. Ohio.

The court discussed that the fact that the stop could be in the nature of private citizen arrest notwithstanding Lt. Shatley’s status as a public employee provided he was not acting as an agent of law enforcement. The use of red lights and siren did not automatically transform his actions into governmental law enforcement actions.

Judge Robert C. Hunter wrote a dissenting opinion that took the approach that because a firefighter is not authorized by law to make arrests like police officers, the arrest was inherently unlawful and the evidence should be suppressed. He went on to discuss how firefighters are not trained to make arrests and the arrest in his mind was a classic example of an unreasonable search and seizure under the 4th Amendment

The cased has reopened a debate on whether firefighters legally can and should use red lights and siren to apprehend impaired drivers. In particular Judge Hunter’s dissent – which on the surface seems to take a very logical, common sense approach – misses an enormous point: what happens when a non-law enforcement government employee witnesses a criminal act and apprehends the perpetrator. Because the person is not a police officer any evidence seized must be suppressed and the perpetrator gets to walk free? Seriously????

Picture this: a public school teacher observes someone sneak into the school and steal a computer. He stops the perpetrator and summons the police. Under the rationale of the dissent that would be an “unreasonable” search and seizure because the arresting employee was not a trained and authorized member of law enforcement. It is absurd.

Rather than debate the factual issues of these cases again and again, let’s consider the complexity of the problem we are dealing with. It defies a simple solution like Judge Hunter’s.  Consider the following:

  • Does a firefighter have the legal authority to use red lights and siren to stop a civilian vehicle?
  • Can a firefighter who uses red lights and siren to stop a civilian vehicle be charged criminally with impersonating a police officer?
  • Does a civilian driver have a legal obligation to pull over and stop when a firefighter displaying red lights and siren so directs?
  • Can a civilian driver who refuses to pull over and stop for firefighter displaying red lights and siren be cited with resisting, evading or eluding arrest; failure to yield; or some other offense?
  • In a criminal case, if a firefighter uses red lights and siren to stop a civilian driver, is the civilian driver entitled to have all evidence obtained as a result of the stop suppressed as the fruit of an “unreasonable” search and seizure?
  • Can a firefighter who uses his red lights and siren to stop a civilian vehicle be sued for false arrest by the civilian who he stops? How about a Section 1983 civil rights violation for a liberty interest due process violation? How about a passenger in the vehicle?
  • Can a firefighter who observes an obviously impaired driver and has the means to stop the driver (apparatus, red lights and siren) be held liable to a third party who is killed or injured by the impaired driver, for failing to stop the vehicle?
  • If a firefighter attempts to stop an impaired driver using red lights and siren, and in doing so precipitates an accident, can the firefighter be held liable for damages?
  • If a firefighter attempts to apprehend an impaired driver using red lights and siren, and precipitates an accident, can the fire department refuse to defend the firefighter because he was acting outside the scope of his employment?
  • Can a fire department discipline a firefighter who uses his red lights and siren to stop a civilian vehicle?
  • Would any of the above change if the fire department’s charter, city charter, ordinances or enabling legislation made reference to the fact that the fire department’s mission and authority was to “extinguish and prevent fires,  provide emergency medical services, and to remove or cause the removal of people from harm, whatever its cause”.

This is truly a multi-faceted issue, one that no one tends to contemplate until we are there in the moment when we observe an impaired driver and we are concerned about the safety of the public we are sworn to protect.

Should the fact that the impaired driver in this case, Mrs. Verkerk, did not kill or injure herself or an innocent civilian be taken into consideration? Judge Hunter’s solution ignores this and suggests that firefighters should not attempt to save lives in this manner.

Perhaps we might ask someone who has lost a family member to a drunk driver, if they wish a firefighter had the gumption to do what Lt. Shatley did and get a drunk driver off the road.

Here is a copy of the NC Court of Appeals ruling: State v Verkerk

About Curt Varone

Curt Varone has over 40 years of fire service experience and 30 as a practicing attorney licensed in both Rhode Island and Maine. His background includes 29 years as a career firefighter in Providence (retiring as a Deputy Assistant Chief), as well as volunteer and paid on call experience. He is the author of two books: Legal Considerations for Fire and Emergency Services, (2006, 2nd ed. 2011, 3rd ed. 2014) and Fire Officer’s Legal Handbook (2007), and is a contributing editor for Firehouse Magazine writing the Fire Law column.

  • DS

    I actually had a drunk driver nabbed once while I was in the ambulance.  We passed this guy who was behind the wheel with a beer in hand.  When I glared at him from the passenger seat he just smiled and gave me a "thumbs up" gesture.  We called him in on the radio to a nearby cop who pulled him over while he was still in our rear view mirror.  I had to give a witness statement to an officer several hours later and they ended up charging the guy with DUI.  Who knows if the charges stuck as I was never called to testify. 

    I think it would be pretty stupid in most cases to try to pull someone over in a fire vehicle.  What are you going to do if the person doesn't pull over, or if they try to pull away once they realize you're not a cop?  What's your chief going to do when they sue the department?  Now, with all that being said, I think you have to look at it on a case by case basis and also go by what your state laws say on the matter.  If I see some guy weaving curb to curb in a school zone with kids present, do you think I'm going to just call it in and hope some cop shows up in time?  Highly unlikely.  I'd force him to a stop if I had to.  But I'd also have to recognize and accept that I could get disciplined or even fired for doing so.  I guess that's the risk you take.

  • bd

    I think her middle name should be hooligan.  Take your punishment for your crime and go away lady.

  • Lynn

    In this description of the Verkerk case it says that Verkerk "… pled guilty to driving while impaired (second offense) but reserved the right to appeal her case arguing that she was illegally detained by the firefighters until the police could arrive."  In the Fox News story it says:

    "Shatley hopped out of the fire truck and approached her car to see if she was ok. He did not ask if she was drunk but did urge her to park her car and have someone pick her up, according to documents. She told Shatley that she would, but then drove off. She was picked up by Chapel Hill Police 10 minutes later and charged with driving while impaired and had her license taken away."

    How was Verkerk illegally detained if she drove off?

    Read more:

    • Lynn

      If you noticed this was one of my longer posts. I an effort to manage its length I did not include all the details and facts in my posting and for those who choose to read further – the case explains in nausiating detail everything that happened.

      It explains how the allegedly illegal detention (even though brief) was part of a causal chain of events that led to Verkerk's arrest.

      I would urge you to delve into reading the case rather than rely upon a news outlet's version of what happened.

  • The questions Curt poses in his blog post are very important, and should be discussed with each muncipality's Police Chief and Corporation Counsel/District Attorney.

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